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Post by damikez on Apr 30, 2010 10:13:54 GMT 8
Have you ever gotten this problem code from your Carens? Our Carens has this problem code and I talked to one of the mechanics at Kia Signet about this. He said this is an impending Turbo problem and can lead to the engine shutting down even in while driving.
What's even scarier is, when I talked to the people at Kia Signet, they told me that the plant will not replace the Turbo Charger unless it breaks down totally (which will lead to the engine shutting down).
Is it just me or is this simply stupid? If we have to wait for the Turbo Charger to completely break down then there maybe a chance that other parts will be damaged as well?
Anyway, I will try to go to a different Kia Service Center, maybe they can help me with getting the Turbocharger replaced before it breaks down.
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Post by jovill on Apr 30, 2010 14:16:18 GMT 8
What symptoms have you experienced that lead you to having this diagnosed?
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Post by damikez on Apr 30, 2010 17:09:30 GMT 8
Minsan loss in power sa acceleration. Whenever the engine is at > 2000RPM and I suddenly depress the accelerator, I can hear the turbo (like a high pitched vaccum like noise)
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Post by hanren on May 31, 2010 21:46:27 GMT 8
Sir Damikez, I also have the same problem right now. The turbo does not seem to kick in even after the rpm reaches 2k. But this happened after my 30k PMS at Kia Dagupan. Wala talagang power yung 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear. I don't know what went wrong during the PMS but nobody from there told me about this hanggang naka alis na ako mag pa past 5 pm na and there's no way I can go back unless sa next day ko na ibabalik.
Hindi na ako confident mag overtake dahil nabibitin na..baka related ang problema natin...?
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Post by bengmd on Jun 1, 2010 17:11:36 GMT 8
if the problem occurred after your last pms, ask the technician if they re- programmed the ecu. I also experienced the same event after they re-programmed my ecu ( since may bago daw na program regarding opening of the egr).
i brought it back to them and replace it with the old program. so far ok na ok ang carengski ko.
baka sakali.
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Post by hanren on Jun 2, 2010 9:50:54 GMT 8
if the problem occurred after your last pms, ask the technician if they re- programmed the ecu. I also experienced the same event after they re-programmed my ecu ( since may bago daw na program regarding opening of the egr). i brought it back to them and replace it with the old program. so far ok na ok ang carengski ko. baka sakali. sir bengmd thanks for the advise. binalik ko sa Kia Dagupan. It was the hose that was disconnected to the actuator of the VGT that was causing the problem. It was carelessness on the part of the mechanics who handled the PMS. Kinabit naman at back to normal na ulit ang takbo. Pero ang concern ko lang is, bakit nga ito natanggal unless may mga pinag gagagawa sila doon na hindi ko alam. Normal PMS naman does not require it to be checked. Hindi ko kasi binantayan maigi nung nasa service bay kasi lagi ako pinapapunta sa lounge area. It was a lesson learned for me.
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Post by jovill on Jun 3, 2010 9:34:25 GMT 8
sir, next time wag mo sila pansinin pag pinapunta ka sa lounge. sabihin mo meron ka na bad experience before kaya di mo iiwanan yung kotse sa paningin mo. karamihan ng mga technician mga OJTs yan.
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Post by damikez on Jun 3, 2010 15:42:24 GMT 8
if the problem occurred after your last pms, ask the technician if they re- programmed the ecu. I also experienced the same event after they re-programmed my ecu ( since may bago daw na program regarding opening of the egr). i brought it back to them and replace it with the old program. so far ok na ok ang carengski ko. baka sakali. sir bengmd thanks for the advise. binalik ko sa Kia Dagupan. It was the hose that was disconnected to the actuator of the VGT that was causing the problem. It was carelessness on the part of the mechanics who handled the PMS. Kinabit naman at back to normal na ulit ang takbo. Pero ang concern ko lang is, bakit nga ito natanggal unless may mga pinag gagagawa sila doon na hindi ko alam. Normal PMS naman does not require it to be checked. Hindi ko kasi binantayan maigi nung nasa service bay kasi lagi ako pinapapunta sa lounge area. It was a lesson learned for me. I'm assuming they cleaned the EGR and wasn't able to put everything back properly. The EGR is very very critrical with regards to the Carens, one reason they came up with a newer version of the ECU software was to fix the EGR control. Oo nga, next time always make sure to be there when they start servicing the car. Madami dyan mga technicians na hindi maingat.
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Post by hanren on Jun 3, 2010 22:02:07 GMT 8
sir bengmd thanks for the advise. binalik ko sa Kia Dagupan. It was the hose that was disconnected to the actuator of the VGT that was causing the problem. It was carelessness on the part of the mechanics who handled the PMS. Kinabit naman at back to normal na ulit ang takbo. Pero ang concern ko lang is, bakit nga ito natanggal unless may mga pinag gagagawa sila doon na hindi ko alam. Normal PMS naman does not require it to be checked. Hindi ko kasi binantayan maigi nung nasa service bay kasi lagi ako pinapapunta sa lounge area. It was a lesson learned for me. I'm assuming they cleaned the EGR and wasn't able to put everything back properly. The EGR is very very critrical with regards to the Carens, one reason they came up with a newer version of the ECU software was to fix the EGR control. Oo nga, next time always make sure to be there when they start servicing the car. Madami dyan mga technicians na hindi maingat. Possible nga sir..dahil natagalan sila sa pag se service. I brought my Carens there at 9 am. Natapos yung PMS mga past 4 pm na.. Pumupunta punta naman ako dun sa service bay area to check pero naka angat sa lifter yung carens at nililinis nila yung mga brakes during those times. I didn't bother to inquire whether they checked the EGR at that time.
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Post by damikez on Jul 13, 2010 15:38:06 GMT 8
guys, update ko lang kayo sa Carens namin. I started this post because our Carens had the "Turbocharger / Supercharger Overboost Condition" trouble code. This was diagnosed 4 times (2 times at Kia Mandaluyong and 2 times at Kia Congressional). A month ago I noticed some sort of high pitched whistling sound coming from the engine. I opened the hood and checked the tubes. I found the main (big) tube coming from the intercooler going to the engine was dislodged (but was still connected). I brought our Carens to Kia Congressional to have the tube connected properly. They were able to connect the tube properly, but after the test drive, it was dislodged again (but still connected). They lifted up our Carens to check the other tubes and they couldn't find any problem, after that, they checked the turbo and said that it was the cause of the problems. Based on what I was told, the main tube from the intercooler to the engine was being dislodged because of the high volume of air being pushed by the turbo charger.
I brought our Carens to Kia Mandaluyong to have the turbo replaced (under warranty of course), they sent the turbo and the intercooler back to the plant for inspection. I was told yesterday that the parts replacement was already approved and they're just waiting for the part.
Based on my conversations with the technicians at Kia Mandaluyong and Congressional, they have already encountered a lot of Carens (VGT) turbo problems, if the turbo does stop working mid-drive, the car will stop running (imagine if you're driving at NLEX @ 150KM!). So I suggest that you guys have your turbos checked for any problems.
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Post by rdguinto on Jul 13, 2010 19:30:53 GMT 8
sir damikez, also had similar problem with my carens (also posted this at tsikot). The problem with mine is that the stock clamp that is used to hold down our hose is not sturdy enough that through time allows leakage of air (even the slightest of air leak). And when that happens, the electronic "solenoid" thing of our turbo. The initial effect is sluggishness of turbo power.
I had it checked at signet Mandaluyong but they were not able to diagnosed it correctly. Had to bring it to Kia Pasig pa. They've immediately fixed the hosed (replaced with a screwtype clamp) and the solenoid circuit (warranty) same day.
I would suggest replacing your stock clamps (especially for the turbo hose) -P100.
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Post by damikez on Jul 13, 2010 21:07:28 GMT 8
sir damikez, also had similar problem with my carens (also posted this at tsikot). The problem with mine is that the stock clamp that is used to hold down our hose is not sturdy enough that through time allows leakage of air (even the slightest of air leak). And when that happens, the electronic "solenoid" thing of our turbo. The initial effect is sluggishness of turbo power. I had it checked at signet Mandaluyong but they were not able to diagnosed it correctly. Had to bring it to Kia Pasig pa. They've immediately fixed the hosed (replaced with a screwtype clamp) and the solenoid circuit (warranty) same day. I would suggest replacing your stock clamps (especially for the turbo hose) -P100. I really do hope that the VGT problems are simply hose related, but I don't think it is. After all, according to Kia Mandaluyong, the plant has approved the replacement of the entire VGT unit. Why would the plant replace a part that's worth 45k, if they can just replace the hoses and the clamps.
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Post by fast block on Mar 25, 2014 9:01:08 GMT 8
bkt po ba nasisira ang vgt ng carens
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